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About the race: the how to

Started by modesti, 04 January 2012 à 16:12:06

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modesti

:hello:

How to participate to the Benefit-Crunching-Action on RNA World (January 15th - 28th 2012)

1. First, get as many computers as you can :love:
2. Create an account on the project : this account can be personal or be for a group of users who want to crunch together (see below for this feature).
OR
If you already have an account on the project, go on it and quit your current team (for the time of the Charity Race).
3. Join this team: http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/team_display.php?teamid=1296
Just follow the link and click "join"
4. Now your account is joined to the Charity Team.
5. Crunch!!!!

Now, if several persons want to crunch together on a unique account in the Charity Team, it's easy:
1. The group account needs to exist: it's a normal account. Create it if it doesn't already exist.
2. The owner of the account can see both the Account Key and the Weak Account Key.
3. The owner of the account can just communicate the Weak Account Key to the persons who want to join the group account.


Stats (should be complete now! ;))

Team Stats
By XSmeagolX: http://boinc.timo-schneider.de/charity
By BoincStats: http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_team_graph.php?pr=bo&id=2132022
By Boinc Synergy: http://www.boincsynergy.com/stats/teams.php?show=1&sort=TC&project=rnaw
By Boinc All Project Stats: http://www.allprojectstats.com/showteam.php?projekt=0&id=1104113
By Free DC: http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=search&proj=&team=Charity%20Team&name=&exact=Y&cross=N

User Stats
By Sébastien: http://statseb.boinc-af.org/charity/
By BoincStats: http://boincstats.com/stats/user_stats.php?pr=rnaworld&st=0&ti=1296 (on RNA World)
                       http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_stats.php?pr=bo&st=0&teamid=0ec52e677ea59cb635e65ff7701a9872 (global)
By Boinc Synergy: http://www.boincsynergy.com/stats/teams.php?team=1296&project=rnaw (on RNA World)
By Boinc All Project Stats: http://www.allprojectstats.com/top.php?type=4&projekt=96&teamid=1296
By Free DC: http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=team&proj=rna&team=1296

Comparison Stats
By XSmeagolX: http://boinc.timo-schneider.de/charity/index_vergleich_charity.php

*****

To all crunchers: Enjoy the race ! :bounce:
Last Unicorn of L'Alliance Francophone
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Under the most rigorously controlled conditions of pressure, temperature, volume, humidity and other variables, the computer will do as it damn well pleases. (Harvard's Law, as Applied to Computers)

modesti

There has been a question regarding the apps to choose for the Race. Here's Norman's reply to SEARCHER (original = German, French and English are translations)
Es wurde eine Frage zu den zu wählenden Apps gestellt. Hier ist Normans Antwort an SEARCHER (Original = deutsch, englisch und französich sind Übersetzungen)
Une question a été posée concernant les applications à sélectionner. Voici la réponse de Norman à SEARCHER (original = allemand, l'anglais et le français sont des traductions)

German original - deutsches Original - original allemand
Hallo Joachim,

also am beliebtesten sind die cmsearch S da diese relativ schnell und ressourcenschonender durchgerechnet werden können.
deshalb kann es manchmal leider auch sein, dass die etwas knapp auf dem server werden.

meist bleiben dann nur noch die cmssearch XXL mit längerer bzw. auch gaaaanz langer laufzeit und höherem Bedarf an RAM.
das blöde an der sache ist, dass die apps aus diversen gründen kein checkpointing bieten und die hauptentwickler es für nicht nötig hielten.
die apps wurden für HPC´s entwickelt und nicht für BOINC und somit spielen RAM und rechenzeit keine rolle.
lediglich linux 32bit schreibt checkpoints.
daher sind für die längeren WU stabile rechner zu empfehlen die lange laufen, stabil und nicht gerade 2GB ram installiert haben ( 4 wäre besser ).
lasse anwendung im speicher im boincmanager einschalten.
auch sollte man für diese zeit die Windowsupdates deaktivieren bzw. auf manuelles rebooten einstellen
wer nachts die rechner ausschalten muss, der sollte den PC auf jeden fall im hibernate modus ( write-to-disk) herunterfahren.

ööhhm, ja

da im moment sowieso nur CMSEARCH S UND XXL ausgegeben werden fällt die entscheidung wohl nicht allzu schwer.

lg
Norman


English - englisch - anglais
Hi Joachim,

Well, the most popular WUs are cmsearch S as they can be crunched quite quickly and with few ressources.
Unfortunately, this can result in a shortage on the server.

Therefore, only cmsearch XXL remains but with longer or a veeeery long runtime and a larger request of RAM. What is funny is that, for many reasons, the apps do not have any checkpoint and the main developers did not find it necessary. The apps have been developed for HPC, not for BOINC, where RAM and duration play no role.
Only Linux 32bit is writing checkpoints.
Thus, I'd recommend solid computers, running for a long time and having more than 2 GB of RAM (4 would be better) for the longer WUs.
Also check "keep apps in memory" in the Boincmanager.
For the time [of the race] you should also deactivate the Windows updates or put them on manual reboot.
If you need to shut down your computer(s) overnight, take care to shut it/them down in hibernate modus (write-to-disk).

Well, yes

As we only distribute CMSEARCH S AND XXL at the moment, the choice will not be very difficult to make

kind regards
Norman


French - französisch - français
Salut Joachim,

Les UT les plus populaires sont les cmsearch S car elles peuvent être calculées relativement vite et en économisant les ressources.
C'est pour ça qu'il peut malheureusement arriver qu'elles se fassent rares sur le serveur.

Souvent, il ne reste alors que les cmsearch XXL qui durent un peu plus voire trèèèèèèèèèès longtemps et qui nécessitent davantage de RAM.
Ce qui est bête, c'est que les applications n'offrent pas de points de sauvegarde pour diverses raisons et que les développeurs principaux ne l'ont pas jugé nécessaire.
Les applications ont été développées pour HPC et non pas pour BOINC, la RAM et le temps de calcul ne sont donc pas importants.
Seul Linux 32bits fait des points de sauvegarde.
C'est pourquoi, nous recommandons des ordinateurs stables, tournant longtemps et n'ayant pas que 2 Go de RAM (4 serait mieux) pour les UT plus longues.
Cocher "laisser les applications en mémoire" dans le Boincmanager.
Pendant ce temps [le temps du Charity, ndt] il vaut également mieux désactiver les mises à jour Windows ou passer les réglages en redémarrage manuel.
Ceux qui doivent éteindre leurs ordinateurs la nuit, devraient dans tous les cas les éteindre en mode "hibernation" [mise en veille?] (write-to-disk).

Euh, oui

Etant donné que nous ne distribuons actuellement que des UT CMSEARCH S ET XXL, le choix ne devrait pas être difficile à faire.

Amitiés
Norman
Last Unicorn of L'Alliance Francophone
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Under the most rigorously controlled conditions of pressure, temperature, volume, humidity and other variables, the computer will do as it damn well pleases. (Harvard's Law, as Applied to Computers)

SEARCHER

FORUM RULES

Created from User [Black Hole Sun] :

:hello:

Welcome here

1.st Rule : Like on any forum, be cool,  :D
2.st Rule : Write in English so everyone can understand you,  ;)
3.st Rule : Have many fun for this Charity Race.  :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Many Greatings to all Crunchers
Member of Charity Team

modesti

If you want to see how many WUs of each type are available:
Wenn ihr wissen wollt, wie viele WUs der verschiedenen Apps verfügbar sind:
Si vous voulez savoir combien d'UT de chaque type sont disponibles :

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/server_status.php
Last Unicorn of L'Alliance Francophone
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Under the most rigorously controlled conditions of pressure, temperature, volume, humidity and other variables, the computer will do as it damn well pleases. (Harvard's Law, as Applied to Computers)

modesti

The list of stats sites should be complete by now (see first post).

Enjoy !
Last Unicorn of L'Alliance Francophone
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Under the most rigorously controlled conditions of pressure, temperature, volume, humidity and other variables, the computer will do as it damn well pleases. (Harvard's Law, as Applied to Computers)